Ethical Scenario

I am in an ethics class and have an assignment due. I would like some of your opinions since you all are an adorably racist community and would find this interesting.
Basically there are poor and low-income families living in motels in Canada. They are being forcefully evicted to house Syrian Refugees. So what do you think are the cons of doing so?

http://www.citynews.ca/2016/01/26/exclusive-residents-at-toronto-hotel-say-theyre-being-booted-for-syrian-refugees/

Napsáno Lord Truesword, 16.03.2016 at 09:58

I am in an ethics class and have an assignment due. I would like some of your opinions since you all are an adorably racist community and would find this interesting.
Basically there are poor and low-income families living in motels in Canada. They are being forcefully evicted to house Syrian Refugees. So what do you think are the cons of doing so?

http://www.citynews.ca/2016/01/26/exclusive-residents-at-toronto-hotel-say-theyre-being-booted-for-syrian-refugees/

Gotta love Canadians. Kicking their own people outta their homes, and taking away their job opportunities for people who're literally from half a world away, not even the same continent, being bombed by the US (who is not accepting many of them but handing them off to their 'allies').
Plus it's not like Canada and Syria had such a great relationship. You should make this a poll.
1. Good
2. Bad
3. Stupid as f#&%
I'd vote for the 3rd one.

Well I'm not interested in doing your homework for you but I will tell you what I think in a sort of ethics framework. All responsible adults understand at least intuitively ethical obligations. You are most responsible for your immediate family first (children, siblings, spouses, parents). Next comes your extended family and friends. Followed by your neighborhood/town. Then your county, state/province, country, fellow man.

The Canadian government should do what it can to help people halfway around the world in dire circumstances, but its primary responsibility is to protect the security and best interests of its own people. That is the reason it exists and that is its first obligation. This might seem cold and cruel (maybe even racist to SJWs that only see issues in terms of white people vs minorities) but adults realize there are no easy solutions to these problems, there are only tradeoffs.

Canada went full retard thats what i think

Napsáno Darth., 16.03.2016 at 10:53

Napsáno Lord Truesword, 16.03.2016 at 09:58

I am in an ethics class and have an assignment due. I would like some of your opinions since you all are an adorably racist community and would find this interesting.
Basically there are poor and low-income families living in motels in Canada. They are being forcefully evicted to house Syrian Refugees. So what do you think are the cons of doing so?

http://www.citynews.ca/2016/01/26/exclusive-residents-at-toronto-hotel-say-theyre-being-booted-for-syrian-refugees/

Gotta love Canadians. Kicking their own people outta their homes, and taking away their job opportunities for people who're literally from half a world away, not even the same continent, being bombed by the US (who is not accepting many of them but handing them off to their 'allies').
Plus it's not like Canada and Syria had such a great relationship. You should make this a poll.
1. Good
2. Bad
3. Stupid as f#&%
I'd vote for the 3rd one.

Oh yes only the US is interfering in the lives of Syria. It's not as if there is a terrorist organization murdering people in the area nor is there any regime that is killing its own people

In response to your question True, I don't think those people should be evicted. So long as they're paying their rent and what not. I could understand if they were not paying what they owed then they have the right to be evicted. I personally believe that the poor in our own country (USA) should be helped first than those in every other country. The US spends billions every year giving to other nations so I don't understand why we can give so much to everyone else and not take care of the people dying on the streets.

Just to clarify the story, the reason the owners of the motel are evicting tenants is because the government is paying the motel to house these refugees and thus the owners are getting more money from the gov't compared to the regular tenants. The motive is money, not willingness to help (at least from the owners pov).

Is that housing crisis in Canada? Im watching news daily about housing crisis in the UK and Germany.

I ask myself what the heck is going in the West, why people get evicted from their homes? Remember financial crisis of 2008? American being evicted from their homes as well. Why?

For example, i've heard 50% of Germans don't own home but rent, so now some of them complain because they are being evicted to make room for immigrants. Also, why are Americans being evicted from homes because of their debts? Isn't that unethical or immoral? Shouldn't the government, NGOs, civil right movements, human right movements protect those people and/or sue someone?

I mean i did live in USSR and was granted 80m/2 flat which was later given to me for free lawfuly by the new (Russian) state when collective ownership along with USSR died. But West is more developed and richer, i thought they don't have such problems.

Yes, they are doing it because government sponsored refugee programs definately pays better, with longer term prospects (they get free houses, its not like they are going anywhere anytime soon) and its safe money, since its the government.

Perfectly legal, but certainly unethical. #classic#capitalism#neoliberal#greed

Napsáno Dereny, 16.03.2016 at 16:05

Napsáno Darth., 16.03.2016 at 10:53

Napsáno Lord Truesword, 16.03.2016 at 09:58

I am in an ethics class and have an assignment due. I would like some of your opinions since you all are an adorably racist community and would find this interesting.
Basically there are poor and low-income families living in motels in Canada. They are being forcefully evicted to house Syrian Refugees. So what do you think are the cons of doing so?

http://www.citynews.ca/2016/01/26/exclusive-residents-at-toronto-hotel-say-theyre-being-booted-for-syrian-refugees/

Gotta love Canadians. Kicking their own people outta their homes, and taking away their job opportunities for people who're literally from half a world away, not even the same continent, being bombed by the US (who is not accepting many of them but handing them off to their 'allies').
Plus it's not like Canada and Syria had such a great relationship. You should make this a poll.
1. Good
2. Bad
3. Stupid as f#&%
I'd vote for the 3rd one.

Oh yes only the US is interfering in the lives of Syria. It's not as if there is a terrorist organization murdering people in the area nor is there any regime that is killing its own people

Well yeah, but that's kinda expected in the middle east

I was going to make a long post about this, but then I saw this:

Napsáno Acquiesce, 16.03.2016 at 11:42

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The Canadian government should do what it can to help people halfway around the world in dire circumstances, but its primary responsibility is to protect the security and best interests of its own people.
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That's my opinion right there in one sentence. The Canadian government should, first and foremost, take care of its own people. Everyone else is a secondary concern.

Napsáno Skanderbeg, 16.03.2016 at 18:09

I ask myself what the heck is going in the West, why people get evicted from their homes? Remember financial crisis of 2008? American being evicted from their homes as well. Why?

I mean i did live in USSR and was granted 80m/2 flat which was later given to me for free lawfully by the new (Russian) state when collective ownership along with USSR died. But West is more developed and richer, i thought they don't have such problems.

Richer countries do not necessarily take better care of its citizens. Case in point: Poland and the United States have similar rates of homelessness, despite the fact that the Poles are, on average, much poorer than the Americans.

In fact, if anything, rates of homelessness are slightly lower in Poland.

Napsáno Khal.eesi, 16.03.2016 at 18:33

Perfectly legal, but certainly unethical. #classic#capitalism#neoliberal#greed

This, my (older) friends, is why you should vote social-democrat.

Napsáno Skanderbeg, 16.03.2016 at 18:09

Is that housing crisis in Canada? Im watching news daily about housing crisis in the UK and Germany.

I ask myself what the heck is going in the West, why people get evicted from their homes? Remember financial crisis of 2008? American being evicted from their homes as well. Why?

For example, i've heard 50% of Germans don't own home but rent, so now some of them complain because they are being evicted to make room for immigrants. Also, why are Americans being evicted from homes because of their debts? Isn't that unethical or immoral? Shouldn't the government, NGOs, civil right movements, human right movements protect those people and/or sue someone?

I mean i did live in USSR and was granted 80m/2 flat which was later given to me for free lawfuly by the new (Russian) state when collective ownership along with USSR died. But West is more developed and richer, i thought they don't have such problems.

typically when people buy a home, they take out a loan from the bank. They pay a down payment on the home and then provide interest every month to the bank. If you cannot afford to pay the bank and you foreclose, the bank is able to take your home and auction it off. No one likes a foreclosed home. The people living there now have no home, the bank is unable to make up its profit, and everyone living in the vicinity will now have to deal with lower selling prices as the price of homes is determined many times by the latest selling price of homes in the area.

Part of the reason why people got into trouble during the 2008 recession was because of subprime mortgages. What this means is people who normally would not have received a mortgage (ie. loan) from the bank were able to gain access to mortgages and bought homes outside their income range. This was not isolated incidents, we're talking tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people who could not afford a mortgage yet opted to get one. So when the recession hit, they lost their homes, banks went under because they lost huge sums of money, and it set off a housing crisis still felt today.

Napsáno Darth., 16.03.2016 at 22:16

Well yeah, but that's kinda expected in the middle east

Why of the entire world would you expect there to be a terrorist group only in middle east...? May I remind you whose fault is it? If it weren't for western countries who sell them weapons and other kind of things, those groups wouldn't exist.

The Government is the one at fault.

The Business owner is running a business.... they can't be expected to be voluntarily ethical. A business is a platform for making money only.. which is a much larger ethical discussion not worth going into.

Paying money from Canadian taxes, resulting in Canadians losing a place to live... that's the problem.

What I want to know is... Why the fuck does a Syrian need to live in Canada? All the money spent on flights could be spent on food and water and tents and shit in refugee camps that already exist and $10 goes a lot further in Turkey than it does over there..... Why doesn't Canada just sponsor another country to take in refugees/ help support camps that are already in place?

Napsáno RaulPB, 18.03.2016 at 06:23

Napsáno Darth., 16.03.2016 at 22:16

Well yeah, but that's kinda expected in the middle east

Why of the entire world would you expect there to be a terrorist group only in middle east...? May I remind you whose fault is it? If it weren't for western countries who sell them weapons and other kind of things, those groups wouldn't exist.

Oh I know. But the middle east IS the hotbed

Napsáno Lord Truesword, 16.03.2016 at 09:58

I am in an ethics class and have an assignment due. I would like some of your opinions since you all are an adorably racist community and would find this interesting.
Basically there are poor and low-income families living in motels in Canada. They are being forcefully evicted to house Syrian Refugees. So what do you think are the cons of doing so?

http://www.citynews.ca/2016/01/26/exclusive-residents-at-toronto-hotel-say-theyre-being-booted-for-syrian-refugees/

The government assuring the rights of refugees(NOTE: Non-citizens) over those with birth citizenship in the nation is just wrong on all levels. Why should the average Canadian have to suddenly live below the standard of a refugee that just recently arrived, in most cases doesn't even know English, and has no understanding at all of the culture and little to no education?

Napsáno Phoenix, 18.03.2016 at 06:40

The Government is the one at fault.

The Business owner is running a business.... they can't be expected to be voluntarily ethical. A business is a platform for making money only.. which is a much larger ethical discussion not worth going into.

Paying money from Canadian taxes, resulting in Canadians losing a place to live... that's the problem.

What I want to know is... Why the fuck does a Syrian need to live in Canada? All the money spent on flights could be spent on food and water and tents and shit in refugee camps that already exist and $10 goes a lot further in Turkey than it does over there..... Why doesn't Canada just sponsor another country to take in refugees/ help support camps that are already in place?

How are you going to make Canada pay for refugees in Turkey ? They will say,well that isn't our problem.
Same reason uk refuses

Napsáno Black Swans, 19.03.2016 at 17:49

Napsáno Phoenix, 18.03.2016 at 06:40

The Government is the one at fault.

The Business owner is running a business.... they can't be expected to be voluntarily ethical. A business is a platform for making money only.. which is a much larger ethical discussion not worth going into.

Paying money from Canadian taxes, resulting in Canadians losing a place to live... that's the problem.

What I want to know is... Why the fuck does a Syrian need to live in Canada? All the money spent on flights could be spent on food and water and tents and shit in refugee camps that already exist and $10 goes a lot further in Turkey than it does over there..... Why doesn't Canada just sponsor another country to take in refugees/ help support camps that are already in place?

How are you going to make Canada pay for refugees in Turkey ? They will say,well that isn't our problem.
Same reason uk refuses

It is our problem because of oil wars and backing Assad when it suited us... We should be sending aid packages and finding them homes/ schooling/ a place to live in surrounding states... We all know Jordan could use the money to support the refugee camp they have... If they're willing to kick Canadians out of motels to house them, they should be funding then in the eu/middle east first.

Rimuv Syrian kebab from Canada and ...
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CASE SOLVED!!

Napsáno Oleg, 20.03.2016 at 03:51

Rimuv Syrian kebab from Canada and ...
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CASE SOLVED!!

Remove Balkan Kebab from this world?

Napsáno Al Fappino, 21.03.2016 at 08:43

Napsáno Oleg, 20.03.2016 at 03:51

Rimuv Syrian kebab from Canada and ...
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CASE SOLVED!!

Remove Balkan Kebab from this world?

then remove whole world?Cuz all people are actually serbs,CROATIAN SCIENTISTS were researching that.