02.04.2020 - 10:35
Been looking at crazy tinfoil hat vids that are talking about the virus and how all the millionaires, billionaires and the Jewish people, are, well "They" want world domination you see... So. A lot. I mean, A LOT of people in the comments are American and talking about "Rising up" and, literally, shooting people dead with guns. (not joking, look for yourself) a civil war, we need "Action" now, we should "Act" now before "They" come any closer. A few even think the virus is fake and no one is infected or dead. What's gonna happen?
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02.04.2020 - 15:14
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02.04.2020 - 15:30
Not even worthy to talk to anymore.
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02.04.2020 - 16:30
So not true
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02.04.2020 - 17:21
No. That's total nonsense. From what I see people are responding exactly like we have in previous crises, I.e. you have 1 or 2 idiots taking advantage (breaking into closed shops and stealing stuff, etc), but the remaining 99.9% of people are supporting each other and voluntarily following the rules. There's no feeling of rebellion here, in fact it's the opposite, people seem more united than before. I'm not watching CNN or the liberal media, so I don't know if they are painting a different picture (other than blaming everything on Trump, as they always do). My view is just from what I see in my community and how people are behaving. I wouldn't be surprised if the comments you're seeing from "Americans" are really Russian bots trying to sow dissention. They've done it before. Also I'm a big pro-gun guy so if there really were such feelings you'd think I would have heard about it already from my gun friends Edit: if there's another American on here would love to hear your perspective...
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02.04.2020 - 22:33 Dave to the rescue!
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03.04.2020 - 09:44
not to be a conspiracy theorist but there are a couple of things going on: 1. at the g-20 summit they decided green energy and global warming is the most important issue we face result the stay in home order is tanking the oil company's in the short run it will lower oil prices but long term it will make oil to expensive to use forcing us into green energy. 2. the us government is trying to force all the online company's to get rid of back to back encryption so they can basically see anything that is happening online. you dont hear anyone talking about it because of the big bad scary COVID-19 3. China has been buying gold in bulk for a long time and now even more what they are trying to do is make their currency the global powerhouse they even are trying to make their currency a digital one backed by gold. with the us adding trillions to our debt this is just helping streamline the process 4. big company's will profit immensely by tanking all of the small businesses i dont think i need to elaborate. bottom line there are many party's gaining from this mass hysteria created by the government and the media i dont think covid is fake but its been blown out of proportion purposelessly
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03.04.2020 - 11:24
This guy makes the worst polls
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03.04.2020 - 11:31
USA wont go into another civil war but what is scary is that radicalized white supremacist starting riots and shit for example charlottesville and the Charleston church shooting its just screwed up stuff like that its just totally wrong and absurd that people would escalate to that level even neo-nazis as well that gotta make sure that does not get out of hand other wise USA will tough threw almost anything but i wish congress would do more instead of this partisan BS.
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03.04.2020 - 13:40
Disagree, and when did you get to be a Supporter? Ew.
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03.04.2020 - 14:50
All this guy says is ''DIsAgrEe'' This guy can't even counter anything.
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03.04.2020 - 17:09
We agree to disagree then
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04.04.2020 - 01:09
This is going to be a long one. There are many myths and theories spreading around. Most of these are perpetuated by boomers and qtards. Frankly, Qtards and Boomers are interchangeable terms. The main boomer narrative is: A) "Corona isn't real", OR "Corona is real, but it's 'just the flu' bro" The subnarratives claim that Corona 'fearmongering' is pushed for the following reasons: a) to hurt Trumps Presidency and Election chances b) to justify autocratic policies on behalf of a New World Order imitative c) to cover up the inevitable market crash as a pandemic-related crisis rather than the inertia of corrupt market forces d) to cover up for 5G negative effects on humans. (This one claims Corona illnesses are real but are caused by 5G) e) to cover up a Trump-led purge that is draining the swamp of pedophile networks and Deep State operatives All of these are bullshit. 'e', is especially bullshit and that comes directly from 'Q' which is a Trump administration propaganda character that promotes narratives to persuade people to 'trust the plan'. I'll later explain why all these narratives are bullshit and why they themselves are part of the neo-liberal and Zionist supremacist mythology that dominates Western culture. For now, I shall explain why these bullshit narratives are so common. Why wouldn't they be? The financial class, the political class, the media class and the academic class have proven to be consistent liars with ulterior motives. Trust in media is at a rock bottom low, and not a single majority-desired public demand is ever put into policy. Rather than deal with this deep mistrust the public has for its institutions, the institutions act snobby, snarky and humiliate or ostracise the public and its independent representatives that vocalise their concerns and grievances. Vast social media platforms ban 'conspiracies', bans anyone that talks about them, bans websites talking about them. Are members of the public who are already mistrustful of lying corrupt institutions going to ignore the fact that these people are banned or are they going to give these conspiracies more legitimacy? Institutions never want to learn the lesson or acknowledge it. The lesson is: Why does public not trust them and do institutional actions effect this mistrust? Why not try to repair this damaged relationship? Why not appease this public paranoia? Instead, they double down on their censorship and humiliation tactics of their opposition. While the centralisation of these institutions is glued together by nepotism of Zionist Supremacists, there is an element of class involved too. A century ago, journalists, politicians, academics, teachers, scientists tended to come from different class backgrounds. Journalists were especially low-tier. Today, all of these people come from the same class background, they go to the same schools, work for the same umbrella corporations, go to the same parties, live in the same areas etc. In other words, they have no access and desire no access to the conversations, concerns and desires of class groups below them. They live in the same mileu and cannot even identify with people below them. This disconnect between the higher and lower classes has expanded over this century to the point of crisis. The upper class refuse to even listen to lower class concerns at all and now promote outright brutal censorship of those below them. This inevitably leads to a greater divide and deeper resentment by the lower classes. Is it any wonder then that much of the public, and a certain part of the public doesn't trust the institutions when a real crisis hits? For decades, we have faced crisis after crisis manufactured by institutions: Red Scare (mildy justified but still manufactured), Stranger Danger, War on Terror, War on Drugs, Global Warming, Climate Change, 'White Supremacy', Russian interference etc. All of these are manufactured fearmongered scare tactics to push forward policy through public capitulation. Over time, the public has become hyper-aware that these fearmongering campaigns were outright lies. The Institutional Boy has cried 'wolf' far too many times, lied too many times and censors those who tell him to stop. Now a real crisis hits resulting in massive social and economic changes, and the public assumes there is an agenda. 'Conspiracy theories' proposed today are a direct product of actual conspiracies by institutions that fearmongered in the past to generate public appeal for a policy that the public wouldn't support because it hurt their interests. So now that I have explained 'why' these theories can become popular, I will now explain what they are based upon. I did so before in another thread but I'll articulate it better: Most of these theories are based upon narratives fed to the public via institutions themselves. What are these fears? Totalitarianism, Death Camps, Secret Police, Global Empire, Loss of Civil Rights such as right to bear arms etc. These are narratives pushed directly by Liberal mythology. These are the 'Great Fears' spread through anti-Nazi propaganda in every aspect of our lives. Godwin's Law, a claim which assumes all internet conversations inevitably lead to 'Nazis' and 'Hitler', are proof of this social engineering. We suffer from a societal wide post-traumatic stress disorder which promotes a spectre of 'Nazism' constantly looming over us. This is our founding story, which dictates all of our moral judgements. This is a story enforced upon us through every institution, which is ruled by Zionist Supremacists that lost power when National Socialists took power. This is an observable fact. National Socialism, above all else, is seen by Liberalism and Capitalism as the number one existential threat. As such, Liberalism created a boogeyman caricature of National Socialism in order to ensure that it never gained a beach head within Liberal society, in order to protect the interests of the people that ruled it. Even Alex Jones claims secret Nazi's dominate public discourse, and that the 'Nazis' were just agents of the NWO. This is a common myth perpetuated by these people, myths that the Establishment is quite eager to push. For example, almost every TV show promotes a narrative of a 'Big Bad' which is an evil caricature of 'Nazis'. The TV show 'Nazi Hunters' is a show about victimised Jews that hunt down Nazi's that are secretly taking over the USA. There are countless examples of similar entertainment These narratives are an actual projection of Zionist Supremacists, who actually do dominate these institutions. Now I shall explain why these 'conspiracy theories' are bullshit. As I said before, these theories are based upon fears molded by Zionist Supremacy. If they fear such policies, why would they seek them enforced? It has taken many years and many tens of millions of conversations between people of our politic to properly dissect our societal narrative. We sifted through the bullshit, the mistruths and found inconvenient truths. We also had to realise that many of our theories were 'copes'. A 'cope narrative' is a story we tell ourselves because its easier than the truth. The truth is that Zionist Supremacists liked things the way they were. They had no intention of molding some civil war between Islam and Christendom. They intended to liberalise Muslims just as they did us. They did not seek some 'racial war', they used incohesion and even inflame such tensions to control narratives and push public support for wars overseas. The main drive was to break cohesion between the lower classes, and to prey upon white anxieties so they would elect market liberals who promised an end to immigration, but would never deliver. They used fears of 'communism', and claimed third world immigration would lead to communism, in order to drive through capitalist corporate policy, they promised wealth would 'trickle down' with lower taxes. "We have to fight them there to stop them fighting here" is a common but debunked narrative. Neo-Liberalism is the main vehicle of Zionist Supremacy, and this vehicle crushed autocratic states, even communist ones. It seeks to liberalise all nations around the world, but keep them separate and sovereign. It seeks free trade deals, not protectionism. It seeks extreme property rights, not socialised autocracy. It seeks lower taxes, not high taxes. It destroys unions, annihilates class cohesion, enforces multi-ethnic confusion and lays the ground work for a global silk road perfect for Zionist Supremacist nomads to rule from wherever and whenever, over a confused incohesive and tense slave class addicted to dopamine hits. Autocracy leads to collectivism, which leads to ousting the 'Other'. The UN majority opposes Israel and condemns them. An NWO would unite the world and overtime collectivise it and allow the global south to override the Anglospheric veto vote which favours Israel. Even the debacle over 'gun rights' is a cope. The Neo-Liberal elite and its Zionist Supremacy does indeed want to take public arms but knows it may never do so. Instead, they use the fear of taking them away to distract from all the other 'civil rights' slowly being dissolved as an inconvenience. Most conservatives are so fearful of losing their arms, that they forget what their arms were used for in the first place, to protect their speech. Corona smashes this fragile expansionist system that has been so carefully and nepotistically crafted over a century. Look at the reaction to it, a surge of rage that has been bubbling over for decades. Why would they want this? They don't. Corona is very real, it's impact is very real and Neo-liberalism has no method of dealing with it. Corona can't be threatened, it has no feelings. It is a monopoly of force that cannot be negotiated with.
Rising up against who? Who are they threatening? Most of this is a 'cope'. They LARP about fantasies to deal with their sense of powerlessness.
I told you before, legitimacy is lost. The desire for 'Order' is growing. The current status quo has fallen to chaos, it has been weakened and is far more vulnerable. The current status quo is now promoting chaos, and people will seek out a new paradigm to bring about order, since the old ones have failed.
Cosmic Horror. Horror like you've never seen. This is the end of an era, and the birth of a new world. Will there be civil war? No. Will there be mass unrest? Yes. Political factionalism? Yes. Street brawls? Yes. Poverty? Yes. The total collapse of public support of the system and its legitimacy. Yes. I can't pretend to predict what will happen, but I can say this: There will be chaos like you've never imagined. You will read crazy insane stories of retardedly dumb things, as scarcity breeds violent desperation. Like these two events just recently: Arsonists Burn 5G Towers https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11320198/coronavirus-5g-conspiracy-theory-masts/ Engineer Derails Train To Hit Corona-related Ship https://www.boston.com/news/national-news-2/2020/04/02/coronavirus-conspiracy-california-train-crash-usns-mercy Like I said, the system has lost legitimacy. An era has ended. Instability will worsen, and the crisis will be more than just the virus. This is a period of outright chaos with no predictable pathway forward. In reaction, people are going to lose their fucking minds. Is 5G unhealthy? Probably. Even if it wasn't, I don't trust the labcoats and corporations claiming it is. Neither does the public, and some members of the public will act on it. Perhaps, states themselves committed the acts of arson to justify clamping down on conspiracy theorists? Who knows? Nothing can be trusted anymore. It is far more advantageous for the system to lie than it is to tell the truth. It's too late to come clean. TL; DR There probably wont be a civil war, not for a while, but the future is more unpredictable, chaotic, and this fear will breed a sense of scarcity and violence that will tear society apart. Conspiracy theories breed due to public distrust in institutions that refuse to heal this relationship. NWO conspiracy narratives are based on Zionist Supremacist mythologies regarding Nazi's and the Holocaust, which paint Nazi's as boogeyman caricatures. This dictates public moral judgement, which in turn births conspiracies of Nazis secretly taking over. This is of course, not true, and just a projection by Zionist Supremacists who do rule. The powers that be liked the way things were and Corona is challenging their legitimacy. They don't want this. They don't know how to deal with it. Public resentment and desire for order will see people seek out new political entities for societal security. People will lose their minds and act in chaotic ways as a means of lashing out. The powerless desire to feel powerful. It's all going to shit with no direction.
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04.04.2020 - 01:50
For once, DFU is getting a sense of the chaos. There's a crack in the defences and the notion that 'everything is not fine' is seeping through. People are beating each other up in shopping malls over toilet paper. Tensions in the US were at the peak prior to Corona, and there wasn't even true scarcity. No feeling of rebellion? A man crashed a train hoping to hit a medical ship because he feared it was purposely spreading corona. 5G towers were set on fire by arsonists. There isn't a single comment section on the entire web that isn't rife with vitriolic mud-flinging between disaffected groups. If you think people banging pots and pans to 'Clap for Key Workers' is 'unity', then I don't know what to tell you. Kids are setting fires across the UK. There is a growing part of the younger male population that genuinely wants to 'watch the world burn'. They felt they had no of future before, they certainly don't have one now, and a horrific nihilism has creeped in. The EU is demanding Spain to open its borders because food supplies are weakening. It's only been a few weeks of 'lockdown' and this could last at least 18 months. In all my years of political and societal observations, I have never seen networks of all kinds flared up this badly.
But he is at fault. I knew about this since New Years, and hoped that we would close borders in mid-January. They didn't even quarantine incomers until recently. If I and others knew about this in January, then governments certainly did. They didn't care. They put markets first and only acted when markets took a hit. Trump claimed it was 'just a flu' in late February, even after China locked down its entire billion population. The Stimulus package only helps big business and gives a pithy tax rebate to the public. Why should the financial sector get a bailout but not the public? Why not bail out the public and let the corrupt financial sector fail? Trump is at fault, the whole system and worldview of it is at fault. CNN wont say that, they wont even chide Trump for not closing the borders. Not a single ounce of truth or nuanced observations will come from any news network, and the distrust for them deepens.
Russian interference? Really? That old chestnut? Another distraction boogeyman? This unwillingess to listen to the grievances of public resentment is not helping. Have you ever thought that people might be pissed off and venting? They're stuck in their homes, facing unemployment, no future, chaos and hiding from a virus that fills your lungs with glue. I imagine people are very angry and screaming into the technological ether to cope. Why shouldn't they be angry at a system that failed them and has abandoned them? I'm not justifying threats, I disavow that, but the sentiment of anger is completely understandable, and real.
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04.04.2020 - 02:14
This is pathetic. This labelling and antagonism of a legitimate anxiety is done. You don't get to ostracise it and push it aside. 'White Supremacist' terrorism is a fake boogeyman. No one believes this and anyone that promotes it is a cynical politicker who is pushing for censorship and oppression of people voicing their grievances in a system that stopped listening long ago. Between the years 2001 and 2011, 'White Supremacists, committed the least amount of 'terrorism' worldwide compared to all other political groups, including Zionists. It was double digit figures, compared to the tens of thousands committed by anarchists and hundreds of thousands committed by Islamists, and these numbers and comparisons are no different today.
A non-violent protest which was illegally shut down by the state due to the chaos of anarchists and communists assaulting nationalists in the street? That Charlottesville? There were two protests, one the night before and one the day after. On the night before, the Nationalists outnumbered the anarchists, and it was entirely peaceful. They marched with torches, proclaiming their right to ethnic self-determination, with no violence, using their first amendment rights to speak their minds. The next day, when the anarchists showed up in vast numbers, they attacked nationalists. Everyone knows antifa are a violent oppressive tyranny that uses violence against its perceived political opposition. It's celebrated. I have no doubt you agree with the concept of 'punching nazis'. Who are you to then label others a violent?
A shooting from 5 years ago conducted by a bowl-cut moron? That's all you've got? How many antifa assaults have occurred since then? How many times has Trump been threatened with assassination, with people attempting to carry it out? The Bernie support that shot up a baseball park? The Antifa that shot up and set fire to I.C.E. building? The Antifa guy who shot up the Trump bar? What about all the Black Lives Matter riots since then? What about the vast numbers of interracial violent crimes committed against Whites every year? 90% of black+white interracial violent crimes are black-on-white. What about the tens of thousands of white vulnerable victims of Islamic rape gangs? What about all the black-on-white terroristic murders? The Black Lives Matter guy that gunned down police? The black guy who shot two white journalists live on air? The black guy who recently murdered his white colleagues for being white? You pretend to 'worry' about 'White Supremacy', a fictional boogeyman, but ignore the myriad of chaotic and violent elements within society. This is cynical bullshit. You just want to use the crisis as a pretext to oppress Nationalists further.
Do what? Make it illegal to be a National Socialist? Wouldn't you rather than talk to us or negotiate with us within this so-called democracy? You people never learn the lesson. You double down on our oppression rather than just talking to people.
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04.04.2020 - 04:12
You don't live in the U.S., so why do you pretend to know what it's like here? I have eyes, I observe for myself what's going on around me, and I'm telling you things are not like you described. Sure I already conceded there's a few idiots doing stupid stuff, I give you that, but you're focusing all your attention on a few isolated incidents. We're a big country and statistically there's bound to be a few crazy things, I don't freak out about that. What I'm trying to tell you is, by and large, people are handling the situation pretty well. Nobody runs news stories about people staying at home. Nobody runs news stories about people helping their neighbors. Your claims just don't fit with what I see on the streets here. I'm not saying things are all rainbows and sunshine. People are worried (myself included) about things, like family/friends getting sick and/or dying, the economy being fucked, people being out of work and not being able to pay their bills. Those are legitimate things to worry about. But all this crazy talk about rebellion and tin hat stuff, that's just 4-chan bullshit. We've been through bad times before, and we'll get through this one like we always do.
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04.04.2020 - 04:22
He does the same in regards to Israel. Too much conspiracy theories are running through his mind.
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04.04.2020 - 05:07
How about we get a draft going and we all go to China to take out our frustration? If I have anything in common with you American's its the love for fast food am i right! and because some bastard ate a fucking bat all ours are closed for at least 5 more weeks(looking to be 12 in total)
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04.04.2020 - 05:55
Who would have ever thought of an admin actually participating in political topics.... not sure it's a good thing, I've learned this forum can bring the worst out of one.... Also knowing that he rather participate in this kind of stuff rather than reading my PMs is fking depressive
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04.04.2020 - 06:04
I guess you don't realize how many PMs I get every day. And nobody ever PMs me just to ask "hey dave, how's life?", no it's always people asking me to do this, do that, like I don't have enough things to do already. I come here to the forums to relax. But if you have a problem with that I can just go silent like the previous owners did. I understand now how they must have felt. Edit: have you even read your own forum signature?
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04.04.2020 - 06:11
Hi. First of all, I wasn't asking "to do", I was asking for one opinion and one doubt... Second of all, I legit don't know what people may write you for or how many do so... Third of all, did I state anywhere that I had a problem with that? It was kind of more like a warning than anything else. Seriously, this forums gets the worst version of oneself somehow, happened to me before, that's why I decided not to participate in off-topic XD anyhow, it surprised me, that's the entire point. Lastly, I think you've missunderstood my entire point, pls don't be so rude. PS: ofc I've read it, not sure you've understood it. I haven't been rude, why have you been rude? PS2: how's life Dave? PS3: does coming here for relax work for you? I can sense you're a bit tense. Don't hate me
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05.04.2020 - 06:40
Any actual proof of "Zionist Supremacists"? You make a lot of assertions yet lack any concrete facts or evidence.
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09.04.2020 - 08:05
I'm putting my opinion on here while irrelevent, I saw it in Tik-Tok's post and was frankly frustrating to read. As a Physicist, I'm genuinly fed up of the crackpot internet conspiracy theories concerning 5G. The latest relating to the coronavirus is not only complete nonsense and fabrication it uses none evidence or actual physical/biological evidence to back it up. One thing I really hate about the internet is the presence of 'internet experts' who believe reading some websites makes them an expert in that field. I can tell you the world is not that simple, especially one of complex wave and particle Physics for the like of most people.
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09.04.2020 - 16:41
Physics made my head hurt for a long time... well, and they still do. Here, in AW, everyone is an expert in everything
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19.04.2020 - 08:52
What's your opinion on it now? Same or getting closer? Saw Alex Jones in a armored car(No expert, but looked like it) chanting the normal stuff he chants
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19.04.2020 - 12:18
My opinion.... it's mostly the same. I think some people are starting to get desperate for work, and I worry about the economic hit we are taking from all this. But civil war? Nah, I just don't see it. My evidence is only anecdotal, I admit... I'm just going off what I see in my local area:
I'll say one other thing. Our asshole governor here in California ordered "non-essential" businesses to close, but they have these strange ideas of what they consider "essential". Marijuana dispensaries are allowed to stay open because they are considered "essential"... but churches are closed because worshipping God isn't? Our country was founded by pilgrims who came to the new world because they didn't want some king telling them how to practice their religion -- and yet nowadays in California it's virtually a felony to be a Christian. The elitists who run this place have utter contempt for religion. If anything you'd think barring people from practicing their religion would get people mad enough to fight for their beliefs, right? Well the response to this has been so typically American... the churches are suing the government! When we have a dispute we fight it out in the legal system, not in the streets. One of the churches near me is leading a lawsuit with a bunch of other churches against the governor. (Of course that will take years to make its way through the courts, so the crisis will long be over by then and nobody will care anymore, but we'll get a token victory because he's blatantly abusing our 1st amendment rights... sigh...)
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20.04.2020 - 15:09
I just saw that people were rioting over there. Almost can't believe it . https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52348288. I'm surprised you haven't noted any of this... maybe this is a 'fake new'?
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